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Thursday
Apr052012

Partnering with SaaS companies; welcome to the dark side!

We have long been partner advocates in the software as a service (SaaS) enterprise space.  However, rarely do SaaS partner channels impress us though.  

At Skyytek we are all about contracts that create a sustainable relationship with symmetry.  It is the only way things can work in the long term.

What is surprising are the number of partners that overlook basic contract language and just sign.  These partners are sometimes not understanding what happens when these contracts terminate or new contract language is enforced.    

Welcome to the dark side.

When you sell a upfront license fee to a customer (on-premise software) you get paid one up-front fee for that license.  In SaaS, this is amortized over the lifetime of the customer in the form of a subscription.   In other words, you have to front load (and pay) your sales and marketing efforts and with SaaS only benefit from the sale (profit) in year 2 or 3 or 4.  

Now bearing that in mind....

The #1 question(s) you should be asking yourself is what happens if:

  • The SaaS vendor terminates the contract.
  • You want to terminate the contract.

To illustrate our point, lets use a contract (that is available in public domain) from WorkEtc, a maker of a SaaS product that does CRM and Project Billing.   ( Sorry WorkEtc )

Most of the contract is standard boilerplate stuff.  However, two paragraphs spring out:

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Modification of Agreement. We reserve the right to modify this Agreement at any time by posting an amended Agreement that is always accessible on this page and/or by giving you prior notice of a modification. You should check this Agreement periodically for modifications by scrolling to the bottom of this page for a listing of material modifications and their effective dates. IF ANY MODIFICATION IS UNACCEPTABLE TO YOU, YOUR ONLY RECOURSE IS TO TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT. YOUR CONTINUED USE OF THIS SITE FOLLOWING OUR POSTING OF AN AMENDED AGREEMENT OR PROVIDING YOU NOTICE OF A MODIFICATION WILL CONSTITUTE BINDING ACCEPTANCE.

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Term and Termination. The term of this Agreement will begin upon our acceptance of your application and will end when terminated by either party. Either you or we may terminate this Agreement at any time, with or without cause, by giving the other party written notice of termination. Upon the termination of this Agreement for any reason, you will immediately cease use of, and remove from your site, all links to this site and all of our trademarks, trade dress, and logos, and all other materials provided by or on behalf of us to you in connection with the Program. You are eligible to earn referral fees only on sales to Referrals that occur during the term, and referral fees earned through the date of termination will remain payable only if the related orders are not cancelled or returned. We may withhold your final payment for a reasonable time to ensure that the correct amount is paid.

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The first paragraph basically states that WorkEtc can change the contract whether you like it or not and at any time.  If you do not like it you can just terminate.  That is good.

But, what is not good is when you combine that with the 2nd paragraph.   This states that if you (or they) terminate for any reason you only get paid on the orders placed during the contract term.   In other words, you do not get paid on renewals and additional users after the date of termination.  In fact, the software vendor gets the full revenue now.

This creates the following issues:

  • If you do not agree with a vendors contract changes, you really have no recourse otherwise you forfeit future revenue.  This is similar to negotiating with the mafia with your head in a vice.
  • The vendor (at some point) has a massive incentive to terminate you.  It is called, "not having to pay commissions".
  • You will never (repeat never) gain significant equity value (or multiple) in your company with these types of contracts.   Putting it another way, you are only as good as your last deal.
  • If you ever annoy the vendor; they can just terminate.  In fact, they will benefit by terminating you. 
  • A complete contractual imbalance

Surprisingly you will find a lot of partner contracts structured like this.  For affiliates that are just passing leads over; we agree on terms like this since no value is really being added.  But for companies that are investing, deploying, demoing, selling and marketing in SaaS channels we categorically do not.

A more palatable approach would be to:

  • Only allow economic business changes to the contract upon approval of both parties
  • Allow commission payments to survive post termination of the contract; or state that the contracts can be only terminated for just cause.

Kudo's to the companies that are/have implemented better contracts for partners.  You know who you are !.

Footnote: We would be very interested in hearing from anyone (with legal knowledge) on how enforceable these one-sided contracts are in the US ?  This is for material for a follow-up blog.   You can contact us at http://www.skyytek.com/contact 

Thursday
Mar012012

Open Source SaaS ERP? Will it be ever be accepted?

Over the last several weeks we have wondered why open source ERP is not yet generally accepted in the business community.

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Tuesday
Feb282012

Business Process Outsourcing and Cloud ERP/CRM. Hand and Glove?

Business process outsourcing (BPO) is a form of outsourcing that involves the contracting (to a third-party provider) of certain operational functions and/or responsibilities.

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Monday
Feb132012

Why we left CapsuleCRM ? Not personal just business !

Six months ago we decided to move one of our business units ( that deals with e-Learning ) from ZohoCRM to CapsuleCRM. We were excited

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Monday
Feb132012

The NetSuite Workflow Builder Module - THE tool for implementation teams

In 2011 we have seen an uptick in customers that want to customize their NetSuite ERP deployment. More specifically around workflow actions.

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Wednesday
Feb082012

Using CRM in your NetSuite account after ERP has been deployed

Some NetSuite customers have deployed financials and order management in NetSuite but never bothered deploying the CRM part to manage sales and support processes.

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Wednesday
Aug242011

SugarCRM with a social touch. CRM for consumers ?

SugarCRM is a commercial open source product that is available as a software as a service cloud offering.

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Tuesday
Aug162011

Has NetSuite got the best channel environment for SaaS enterprise software?

NetSuite has had a successful channel since near inception. It is well thought out and has developed significantly over recent times. From 2003-2008 Skyytek was involved in the NetSuite channel as a solution provider; selling subscriptions to customers. Over the last six months we have looked at several SaaS ERP offerings with a view to selling subscriptions to compliment our SaaS enterprise consulting initiatives.

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Friday
Jul292011

Is Google Plus useful for the enterprise today? short and sweet!

We are going to keep this short and sweet. The invite only Google Plus social platform has been around for a month or so. It has created a firestorm. It is not officially available for the enterprise until later this year.

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Wednesday
Jul202011

Rip and replace social media. Rip and replace ERP. Rip and replace CRM. The same?

Something dawned on me today while I was messing around with GooglePlus (G+), the new social initiative by Google aimed along the lines of a Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn thing. I FELT FREE!.

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Thursday
May052011

Careerminds, a Skyytek customer, receives $1.3M in funding - for outplacement?

We are definitely becoming a nation of change in tech. Now it is hitting the outplacement industry. The outplacement industry is a traditional industry that deals with servicing displaced employees of companies during their career transition by providing services to assist these employees to get back to work.

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Wednesday
Apr272011

#CFO fraud. Is it on the rise in #SMB's? Who is to blame?

A bit off topic here - but never-the-less, something we feel we need to address since we are involved in Management Consulting and ERP deployment. So, we have come across two cases in the last few months involving our customers where CFO's have been linked (and in one case imprisoned) to fraud schemes that are relatively massive in nature considering the customers revenues.

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Wednesday
Apr272011

Cloud Line of Business Solutions versus All-in-One #ERP?

With web 2.0 apps coming out every day to run aspects of your business - this begs the question: Do I choose line of business (LoB) solutions or bite the bullet and try to find a all-in-one solution that can run at least 80% of my entire business?

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Thursday
Apr142011

Cloud ERP - Is Microsoft Just Confusing Everybody?

With the recent announcement that Microsoft is moving its ERP (Dynamics) solution to the cloud - what exactly does that mean?

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Tuesday
Apr122011

Are consulting companies changing fast enough in a cloud web 2.0 world?

With the proliferation of many feature-rich on-demand CRM/ERP solutions on to the market place and emergence of modern “social” enterprise applications to make your corporate life more efficient – We ask why has the consulting industry not really adapted ?

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Thursday
Mar032011

SAP Business ByDesign - Partner Summit 2011 - What went on?

Skyytek attended its first SAP Partner Summit in Savannah, GA this past weekend and we walked away very impressed with this gathering.

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Friday
Feb252011

SAP Business ByDesign - Adding Color to the In-built Solution Configurator

Dennis Howlett ( @dahowlett ), a popular SaaS ERP writer, recently posted SAP Business ByDesign - An update. In this great SAP Business ByDesign article he touches on a couple of things...

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Friday
Jan282011

Some traditional ERP consultants and developers confused about the concepts of SAP Business ByDesign 2.6 and its new SDK?

Since becoming an SAP Business ByDesign (SAP ByD) partner, Skyytek (a company that has been deploying SaaS ERP solutions since 2003) has had the opportunity to interact with many third-party SAP developers, consultants, and business process people.

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Thursday
Jan202011

SAP Field Services Kick-off Meeting 2011 ( FKOM ), Las Vegas - A partners perspective

The purpose of SAP's FKOM for SAP Business ByDesign is for field sales to gain focus on missions that are expected of them in the upcoming year; also giving them a chance to collaborate amongst their peers and senior management.

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Tuesday
Jan182011

Is 2011 the year of SAP Business ByDesign for SMB's ? - We think so!

After general release during the mid part of 2010 and the subsequent hiring of a quality partners in Q4 2010 ( including Skyytek !) - SAP Business ByDesign, an on-demand ERP offering for the SMB space, seems poised to take 2011 by storm.

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